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Placeholder for Quads / Heat Packin and The Kid's trip report to Jackson Rancheria playing $6/12.

I personally love the game!!! I think $6/12 is a great limit for an all around good solid game. Enough to make it interesting, but not too much to get you broke in a hurry.

There was quite a bit of interesting bits prior to the poker table, and after, which I'm sure we'll all get to, but I wanted to throw something up here for the peeps. The Kid pretty much was Hagar'd all night... Big Jimmy I think ended up about $60 down after going thorugh some big swings....
I bought in for $200, cashed out for $730. Got hooked up on most every draw then a few that shouldn't have.

More to come.....

(standing around waiting for a poke rtable to open up with 30 people on a wait list)
"WTF? There's no booze here?!?!?"
"no man, it's an indian casino, 18 years old and up, no booze"
"I saw some chick over there with a beer"
"no dude, she had an o'doules"
"SNAP!"
 

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Here is my semi full trip log.

Heat Packin (Slim Jim) and the Kid and I figured we were due for an outing to throw some cards. The options were the obvious, Saturday night, Black Sheep, Reno, Tahoe, or any of the local places.

We decided to roll to Jackson as they were running either a $5/10 or $6/12 game, per the person on the phone. We met at my place and rotated tires about 5:00. We arrived at Jackson at about 5:45. I was immediately put off by the guy who bumrushed my car yelling at me telling me I was in the "Valet Pick Up" line and not in the Valet "Drop Off" line and if I wanted my car parked, then I needed to go back down the hill, and get back in the correct line, like a good monkey. So I went back down the hill, and came back to where I began, just offset by about 10 feet to the right of where I was originally sitting. They took my keys and we made our way into the poker room.

Up the escalator we went only to be greeted by a rude, confused and non friendly poker “host” who made it seem like it was a pain in his ass to inform us that there was a waiting list of 30 or so people and they were not planning on opening another table anbd the wait is the wait.
We inquired about the $6/12 game which we were told on the telephone would be starting at 6PM. The people at the poker desk knew nothing about that, nor did they seem interested in opening another table for those that were on the wait list. So, we put our name on the list for 3/6 and 4/8, which were the games running.

Back downstairs top play blackjack, craps, Texas shootout, three card poker, what ever would pacify us until a seat opened or we found enough reason to roll to Tahoe. We knocked around the idea of rolling to Tahoe at that point, which we figured we were a solid hour away from (I was driving the Lincoln). Waiting around some more, some more, some more, and finally around 8PM they opened a $6/12 table. There were hopes that a $10/20 game would have started which they started a list for, but it only made it to about 6 people. Fine, we are here, we've been here, we are on a $6/12 table... let's rock.

The Kid was seated at a $4/8 table to play one hand when the $6/12 game opened and then moved. I don't know that I was actually "called" for the game, but I saw them pointing to a table and saying six twelve" so I went to the table and too ka seat. We were all seated at the table and now were waiting for chips. We got chips and then were waiting for a dealer. The dealer arrived, but was missing cards, he found some cards, and the game finally got on its way.

The interesting thing about Jackson is that you don’t need to be 21 to gamble, so there were all the 18, 19, and 20 year old ESPN’rs raring to go with their bankroll of a month’s allowance or fresh money from that student loan check. Or who knows, perhaps Daddy’s “Atta Boy” money… None the less, chips on the table are chips on the table.

Get 'em in the air!
As the play started our table was rounded out with a few older folks, a few middle aged folks and a few kids (18 y/o’s) the play was rather soft, but then would all of a sudden get really really tight for an orbit or two and then loosen up a little later. There was one kid who was playing a $1/2 type game with chips to burn, betting every flop, turn and river and showing down with junk pair, K/4 off, etc. Needless to say he didn’t last long. Nor did his buddy who was following his lead. There were a few others on the table that were skilled players and played very tight and only seeing a few showdowns with chips invested all the way through the pot.

The Kid was initially at one end of the table and was getting “Hagar’d” as we call it catching zero cards to play, and when he would catch playable cards, they would hold up to a very small pot or his K/Q suited would get knocked out on the river by the guy catching the miracle ace to make his hand. The Kid ended up moving down toward our end of the table where Slim Jim and I were seated. I was in seat 2, Slim Jim was in seat 3 and the Kid ended up taking seat 4. It was all the Kid could do… catch two live cards and bet the hell out of them to get some action and chips back his way or get sucked dry from a nut draw hand that never made it. (4 to a flush, straight, top two pair, etc.) You could see his frustration at times, but generally speaking he was keeping good spirits about it.

Slim Jim goes on tilt after getting his ass handed to him a time or two and was bleeding about a stack an hour. He took off to take a walk after listening to me tell him to a) be patient, be patient, and be patient. Well it finally wore off and he took a walk, went and rubbed one out, what ever. He came back to a missed blind button and was the blind again. He either had the option of sitting out a few more hands, or posting $9 to come in. I goaded him into posting the $9 with the selling line of “hey, just think, $6 of it will be live!” So, shoenuff he comes in. I get A/5 dealt to me on the button, flop comes out and gives me top two pair, and I’m gunning. Slim Jim is calling all the way down. We build about a $200 dollar pot with the collective effort of everyone else on the table and he catches his J on the river to fill up. Not putting him on Motown, at the river, it was he and I. I bet it, he raises it, I call him. He flips over and thanks me for getting him in the hand. Sonsabitches…. J/5 to fill up on the river. Good catch….

I likewise caught a few good “catches” on the river to make several straights, flushes and full houses. There were a couple of hands that I held top pair and couldn’t get people off their hands no matter what I did, all things considered it was a limit game, so a strong bet of $60 on the turn versus a raise of $12 makes this a little more difficult. Don, (a really cool cat who wants to play in our home game) and I tangled a few times. It started with him making a straight to push me out of a rainbow flop, top two pair, he caught runner runner to make his K/10 straight. I was dragging several rich pots which gave me a surplus of chips that I played several hands in late position that I normally won’t play. One hand with him I held a junk hand, and caught runner runner 9’s to make a full house. Most every draw I was on made it at the turn and I was still getting paid come the river. Most every pocket pair I was playing, flopped or turned a set and held up. When I got out of the pocket pair, it was a good read on the table, as it was a loosing hand at the showdown. One hand I was playing that I don’t often was Q/9. For some reason, Q/9 was hooking up every time. Made several straights with it and or took top two to the end as a winner or again, caught a card on the river that filled me up.

One of the classic hands I remember was on the button, I get Q/Q in the hole. UTG raises, next player calls, someone reraises, next guy folds, fold, fold, fold, I take advantage of the button and cap the betting at $24. Mark my words…. Slim Jim and The Kid as my witness, the flop came out rag, rag, rag and it is checked around to me, I bet $6 dollars into a $125 dollar pot and everyone else folds around to me. It was all I could do to hold the burst of laughter inside. I looked at the Kid and Slim Jim with a lost and confused look on my face and they just looked back at me shaking their heads and shrugging their shoulders.

The night, like I noted in my placeholder was one of the first winning sessions I have had in several months, so I was very happy to cash out of the bank with 7 blacks and some change. On the way to the case I stopped at the Roulette table and made the joke that I was going to bet it all on Red or Black and THEN we’d roll out of there. I don’t know who was going to punch me first….

I headed to the cage, cashed out and we motored homeward around 12 or so after a solid 4 hour session. I was feeling the love and we were all pretty wound up from the night so we rolled into IHOP in Folsom to bag a few late night hunniez with a side of gravy. Pitiful, I know, but it is the ONLY 24hr joint in the town. The big spender I am, the Kid and Slim Jim macked it up IHOP style, that of which I believe Slim Jim still has that Chicken Fried Steak still sitting with him busting his ass every at opportunity.

So, my first trip to Jackson's Poker Room, here is my summary:
They are / can be rude to you.
Semi disorganized in the poker room / host area.
The poker "area" was a complete adn total afterthought, but there are 7 tables there.
It can get blistering cold up in their poker “balcony” so bring a sweatshirt as a backup. (poor HVAC balancing)
Pack a flask if you want to drink, apparently no booze in the joint.
$3/6 and $4/8 are their predominate games.
Weekends will see $5/10 or $6/12 and perhaps $10/20 with the right crowd.
The have a mixture of Paulson Hat and Cane chips and mostly Chipco chips in the poker room.
The rake on ALL games is a flat $4
Service in the poker room is decent.
There is a lounge / stage down below with a live band that can get rather annoying with the “noise” in your ear.
Play is generally soft and the crowd is generally younger.
The tables / felt / rails are nice, clean and in decent shape other than table play surface being a little narrow and somewhat cramped on a 10 handed game.
Seats are about the same as anywhere else. You put your ass in them, it starts to hurt in about an hour.
It’s about a 45 minute drive for Folsom.
Didn’t eat the food, so I can’t report on that.
Oh yeah, and all kinds of little hot 18 year old fresh out of high school hunniez running around….
 

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Glad to hear you were able to make a withdrawl. I still have a few chips on deposit there. I concur with all of your observations - it's pretty bad when one of the dealers refers to the place as "one of the worst run poker rooms in the area" and is right.

The older "wannabe semi-pro" crowd seems to dominate the tables earlier in the day. The youth starts to take over as it gets dark.

The food in the bufet is pretty good and they actually have a reasonable price - not the prices of old, but reasonable.

Getting the auto-shufflers in place was a good first step towards becoming a real cardroom, but they do need to seriously work on their attitudes and they really need to get a real cage in place. It's pretty annoying having to go wait in line behind all the slotters waiting to cash out thier little slips of paper.

No alcohol allowed on the premises - you might be able to get a beer in one of the restaurants, but they won't let you bring it out into the casino. They're very focused on relieving the 18-20 yos of their money.
 

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Getting the auto-shufflers in place was a good first step towards becoming a real cardroom
Auto Shuffler?!?!?!?
The 6/12 game was all the way in the back on one of the tables back there. There was no autoshuffler on the table we were on.
 

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Bummer.

For some reason, they still have a few tables without them and they always seem to find a way to use the tables wihtout them. I was there a couple weeks ago. They had one tabel in play and it was one without the shuffler (probably the one you were on).

I'm thinking this place went to the Cache Creek class: "How to Treat Poker Players 101".
 
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