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(Not that I expect many replies out of this ghost town, but...)

I used to be able to come here and have no shortage of people to confer with on everything from guns to PHP and MySQL. No such luck any longer...

Since this place is going SK in short order are there any good firearms forums out there? After our PMC Meet Up I've gotten the shooting bug again and need to get back into it.

Was there another exodus that everyone fled to like we came here from SK's?
 

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(Not that I expect many replies out of this ghost town, but...)

I used to be able to come here and have no shortage of people to confer with on everything from guns to PHP and MySQL. No such luck any longer...

Since this place is going SK in short order are there any good firearms forums out there? After our PMC Meet Up I've gotten the shooting bug again and need to get back into it.

Was there another exodus that everyone fled to like we came here from SK's?
No input from me, but I'm in agreement with your assessment, and interested in any answers you dig up. Standing by for more info...
 

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No input from me, but I'm in agreement with your assessment, and interested in any answers you dig up. Standing by for more info...
Same here.
 

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Yeah after the posting on our M&G this place died.

Where do we go?
I would put up a forum but have no time whatsoever now.
 

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I have two vb forums so could easily do this or add a private subforum for us to use. - but- what's the point and the goal? If it is to just have a place for us to message and post semiprivately (as this subforum is), then this is as good as any (unless the plug gets pulled which is unlikely imo).

If it is to do more than that, ie- hope for a constant influx of new blood, then simply setting up another forum doesn't handle that- you need a core function of the forum that attracts random strangers looking for a certain subject. eg, SK poker tables or PMC man cave stuff... And then if you come up with that, it takes a lot of care and feeding to turn it into a thriving community. just ask Q how much time he prolly spent on here in the first few years, reading and replying to everyone.
 

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ar15.com is my favorite firearms forum. There are around 5k people signed in at the moment.
 

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ar15.com is my favorite firearms forum. There are around 5k people signed in at the moment.
I was on there a little bit ago and was trying to search for "range bag" but there search options are extremely limited unless you wanna pay (at least) $24 a year.

Unfortunately, Zathras hits the problem on the head. A new forum, subforum or even a facebook group would require someone put in a lot of work to keep it active. I'm sure none of us have that kind of time.

When I googled firearms forums US Carry was high on the list. That seems to be a group that would align with my objectives. May have to register and check it out.
 

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Yeah after the posting on our M&G this place died.

Where do we go?
I would put up a forum but have no time whatsoever now.
See below

I have two vb forums so could easily do this or add a private subforum for us to use. - but- what's the point and the goal? If it is to just have a place for us to message and post semiprivately (as this subforum is), then this is as good as any (unless the plug gets pulled which is unlikely imo).

If it is to do more than that, ie- hope for a constant influx of new blood, then simply setting up another forum doesn't handle that- you need a core function of the forum that attracts random strangers looking for a certain subject. eg, SK poker tables or PMC man cave stuff... And then if you come up with that, it takes a lot of care and feeding to turn it into a thriving community. just ask Q how much time he prolly spent on here in the first few years, reading and replying to everyone.
This is a great place - just needs new people for when others leave. If there's a place that is like this, already going with a wide variety - then we could migrate.... A new place wouldn't have any new people.

How do we increase traffic here?
 

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How do we increase traffic here?
This question has been asked many times by guys like Quads and others that were invested in seeing this site continue to thrive and grow in the years after the migration. What really made the SK forum work was that a steady stream of people were google searching "how to build a poker table" or something similar and SK's forum was in the top 3 search results (it might have been #1). The forum had a wealth of knowledge and experience to provide everything needed for someone with no experience to build a table. Probably somewhere around 1% of those people eventually made their way into the off topics section and found a thriving and engaging community which is where our "down the street bar atmosphere" came from.

Obviously, after the move, we tried to come up with the Man Cave theme that would continue to generate outside traffic but that didn't end up as successful as would be needed to result in new regulars in the OT section. We've had a few new people join and become regulars like CarsandGames, but overall the forum content and especially the OT section is populated almost entirely by existing forum members that have been around since before the migration from SK. In the intervening years, Quads would occasionally get a wild hair up his ass about something on the forum that negatively affects traffic. Stuff like asking new members to post wife nudes or even swearing as those things can negatively affect the sites rankings on google search. I know after a while he kind of gave up caring and before too much longer sold the site to the current owners. Since then, there's been almost no growth but a long slow decrease of active regular members to where we are now. The fact that the majority of the new content on this site over the last year has been backroom nonsense (mostly political) hasn't helped either.

If there was a simple answer for how to create new forum that would generate a lot of new traffic and thus new content, I think Quads or someone else would have invested in making that happen already. You kind of have to hit a new fad (like poker table building) early before it becomes mainstream popular to get 100's of thousands of search hits to generate the kind of new traffic a forum needs to keep a large, diverse, and healthy population.
 

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Interesting side note...

back in the 2011-2012 timeframe I was checking in on SK every now and then, because after all there really is a wealth of knowledge there. At one point I discovered the place had been overrun with spam and I shot SK a msg letting him know. He said he didn't really have time to mess with it but if I wanted to be a mod he'd set me up and I could clean up anything I wanted.

I was admin-ing my own forums so I said fine, and I think I maybe purged a few dozen spams over the course of a few weeks. I kind of forgot about it and I think a few years later I noticed the site was tango uniform. I contacted him again via fb and asked and he said it got hacked and he took it down.

That's the last I recall thinking about it until this discussion, so out of curiosity I went to sk.com and hit the forum link and kapow- he has the thing back up, and... drumroll.... yours truly is a full admin... not sure when he put it up but his last visit was about 2 months ago. And I see DrXXX recently bumped a thread- just last friday! lol
 

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not sure when he put it up but his last visit was about 2 months ago. And I see DrXXX recently bumped a thread- just last friday! lol
Heheheheheehe. :p

At the M-n-G, there was mention of SK's place, and the last few times I had checked in, it was completely down, error message and all. I took another look once I got back from Arizona and wouldn'tcha know? It was back online. Must have just happened, fairly recently.

I picked a random thread from years prior and BUMPed it. Seemed like the thing to do... :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
 

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Ditto Timsta.

Had no idea SK was back online. Quit looking at it once I noticed it was offline (not that I did much before that because all it was was spam).

But Like Zath said, no sense moving if only 6 people move. This place is fine, just need to figure out how to get more new blood, or some of the old blood back.
 

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Heheheheheehe. :p

At the M-n-G, there was mention of SK's place, and the last few times I had checked in, it was completely down, error message and all. I took another look once I got back from Arizona and wouldn'tcha know? It was back online. Must have just happened, fairly recently.

I picked a random thread from years prior and BUMPed it. Seemed like the thing to do... :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
well good thing I know you, or I'da deleted that as spam....

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What really made the SK forum work was that a steady stream of people were google searching "how to build a poker table" or something similar and SK's forum was in the top 3 search results (it might have been #1). The forum had a wealth of knowledge and experience to provide everything needed for someone with no experience to build a table. Probably somewhere around 1% of those people eventually made their way into the off topics section and found a thriving and engaging community which is where our "down the street bar atmosphere" came from.
Yeah, there is that. Poker Tables were so specific that it kinda had to succeed given, at the time, the incredible popularity and growth of poker. We've well passed that bubble and "Man Cave" is so NON-specific that it had to take a lot of work to make it successful. And, I think it was really successful for a while. That's one of the reasons I stopped checking in as often: It seemed like every time I did I would blow an hour, two, or even longer because there was always so much good shit going down. Hit the New Posts button and it would come up with 10 or more pages of UNread topics. I didn't have time to read it all, or even the most interesting stuff, so I didn't read any of it.

In the intervening years, Quads would occasionally get a wild hair up his ass about something on the forum that negatively affects traffic. Stuff like asking new members to post wife nudes or even swearing as those things can negatively affect the sites rankings on google search.
I remember one instance he started to put the kibosh on the porn because we were coming up high on the first search page when searching for porn. :eek:

...just need to figure out how to get more new blood, or some of the old blood back.
Yep. I guess we'll never know why so many people just checked out but it would be nice to get at some action around this joint.
 

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Would love to, but it seems he bolted with the rest of the masses. :(
I actually talked to him the other day. But didn't get very far, only mentioned that he hasn't been here and he just said he hasn't been here in months. That was as far as the convo got. We didn't talk long.
 

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Everybody PM all you favorite old members and see if they get an email and respond to it.
JC has an idea here. could the mods we have left send a "come back and give input on how to revive the site" email to all the listed members?
 

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just ask Q how much time he prolly spent on here in the first few years, reading and replying to everyone.
Would love to, but it seems he bolted with the rest of the masses. :(

Yeah, actually talked to him again today. That was basically one of his answers. Other life activities got in the way. He found he was spending so much time here that other things weren't getting done, much of that time babysitting certain posters. Nearly everyone moves on at some point as other priorities take hold. This was his time, once he realized exactly how much time he was spending "online". It was also a significant reason why he sold it in the first place, just to reduce some of the time burden he was experiencing.

There has to be new blood coming in or it will fizzle out and that is where we are at this moment - not enough new blood. The question is if there is enough content and interest in that content to hopefully get some new blood in at some point.
 
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