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I am also reading a couple of books on how to beat craps (don't laugh, it could be done): Wong on Dice, by Stanford Wong and Get the Edge on Craps by the Sharpshooter.

The basic idea is to set the dice and throw them in a controlled motion. You are not going to get the dice to come out with an exact number every time on your throw, but with practice you could avoid the dreaded 7's as much as possible after the come out roll. If you bet the lay out correctly you will have an edge over the casino when 7's come out less than the theoretical 1 time in 6. Read the books for more details.

Also, there are dice shooting schools in Vegas somewhere if you are interested.
 

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This is an interesting concept. I do like to play craps, playing low limits just on the pass line and the come, with full odds on each and sometimes I play the 6 or 8. It's a good way to pass time and get free drinks, and can be profitable if there's a hot shooter.

Last time I was playing in Reno, this one guy was really on fire. Like, he shot for over 40 min! Everytime the dice were sticked to him, he'd take them, organize them in the same manner every time, pick them up the same way, and I noticed that he also threw them in the same way (same arc, relative power, direction, etc).

I thought it was just superstition (many craps players are), but then I wondered if he had some odd system for minimizing 7's once the point was out. After awhile, the floorman came over was closely watching his throw. Eventually, he crapped out, but man the whole table was making $$. I made $300, but could have made way more if I had not been so chicken and bet more. This one guy on the end made, and I kid you not, $42,000! During the end of the streak, this guy had $2000 on the pass, with max odds and had $1000+ on each number. Threw the roller a yellow ($1000) chip after the steak ended. Amazing!

Can some people beat the build in house edge (less than 1.5 % usually) at craps??

-David
 

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Yes, the house advantage could be overcome, but it takes the right knowledge and plenty of practice. If you are interested, buy and read the 2 books. The 1 of the dice schools is under http://www.dicecoach.com and they offer classes in Vegas, I think.

Another site is http://www.dicesetter.com

I am not planning to become a pro craps player but I enjoy reading books about gambling.
 
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