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Things fell into place to allow me to finally check out the fish bowl in Cameron Park that the regulars have been touting for the last several months. I get up there a few seconds before 6:00 and they hadn't opened yet. I went to the bar next door to use the bathroom and the room was open when I got done.

I walk in through the bar entrance to find Quads and James chatting it up along with a few others that have played in some of Quads $100 midweek games.

The table filled quickly and we were off. The game is a $40-$100 buy-in NL with 1/2 blinds and a $5 bring-in. I landed the button to start and proceeded to watch for nearly a full orbit before finding something worthy of limping. IN my first BB I found 44 and opted to play it for "the discount". The flop comes 488. Hmm...not bad. I checked obviously hoping that one of the action guys would build me a pot, but, for the first hand thus far, it checked around. Wonderful - my cards are face up. The turn brought somethng like a 6 which should have given someone a dream so I bet $10 (pretty much the "standard" opener in this game) and everyone folded. "Come one guys - show a little support." as I threw my hand face up on the board. So I was up $15 after one orbit ready to get busy and get in one of the bigger pots.

The next hand I got involved with was about an orbit later when I picked up a naked Ace on the button. The flop came 9QQ and 5 players checked around so I took a shot at the pot for $10. Scooter decides he needs to call. Chasing down the flush? An A hits the turn, but throws 3 spades on the board. He checked it to me. Like a little sissy-mary I checked-through, not wanting to get check raised. The river threw a J on the board and Scooter throws $20 at the pot. I felt the he might be trying to buy it from me with a 9 or J so I looked him up. Turns out he did have a J- with a J kicker. The river delivered a 2 outer full house. Yer killin' me.

The next hand I got involved with was an AK from mid/late position which I raised and got 2 or 3 callers including an aggressive kid and Scooter. Flop brings me AKx. Hoping to suck someone in to makiing a play on me, I checked it through on the flop hoping to represent an underpair. It checked around. The river brough a Q, which was not exactly the card I was looking for, but I really didn't worry about it. The aggro kid fires $20, I "reluctantly" go all-in for ~$39 and then Scooter ponders and shoved. Well, that got rid of agro kid. "What did you hookup with Scooter?" as I flip up my AK (confident that it was the best) and he beams "My favorite hand!" JT. Great. 2 outer, 4 outer. YOU ARE KILLING ME!

"2 Outers, 4 Outers" seemed to be the theme of the night. Earlier QUads lost his stack to a 2 outer river. HE was so steamed (I'm not the only one to steam a bit at the table) that he almost turned his cards face up when looking at the next hand and I was able to see them. First card was a Ks, 2nd card was black paint. Not sure if it was the second K, or a black J, but it looked like gold to the steaming Quads and he raised to $20. Turns out I had red AQ (may have been suited) but I just couldn't bring myself to tangle with Quads when he was tilting especially when I had good idea of his hand composition. My AQ would have been good and asked Quads to be more careful with his cards.

An orbit or so later, a "one foot out the door" Quads (who was 3 racks into the game) shoved his fresh third rack in on the nut flush draw with 2 others n the pot. One guy, who had been making a lot of overbets and doing well, bet $100 (into a $30 pot) Quads pondered and said "Let's gamble" with his remaining $90 stack. Somehow the dealer found that the bettor owed $10 more (???) and no one objected. Quads: "Bring me a heart dealer." Well, she did and it was "the" heart he needed. To fill his Royal Straight Flush. Sweet. That hand put him almost back to square on a rough night and he actually got above water for about 5 minutes before the gates opened again.

I managed to drag a couple of pots to get back near even for the night, but I seemed to just be in a bad groove - mostly cold cards, no action when I made a hand, and no respect when I was on the take. I bled a few hands and slipped back down to $100 for the night. Quads made a pretty bad $175 call to send him home packing about 20 minutes before I left and Scooter had a couple little bursts of running the table to finish 2 racks up for the night. Pimp was on the 2nd table and appeared to be doing well.

I was really unhappy with my game. Lots of cold cards, which I can't do anything about. I wasn't making good reads and wasn't making good bets when I had playable hands. I may have just been out of it, but I was thinking on the way home and realized that I never once made a pot sized bet, which is uncommon for me. I started considering why and realized it was because of the blinds to buy-in ratio. With a $5 bring-in, you pretty much had to commit the full $100 stack to one hand to make proper "reasonable" pot sized bets. With 4 limpers, the flop bet would be $20 and the turn would have to be $60+. I never had a hand that I was comfortable putting a full stack at risk at one time so when ever I did bet I never bet big enough to put pressure on anyone. "$10" sounds like a lot, but it's just not when it's bet into a $50 pot. I didn't realize what my probem was during the game, but it was crystal clear on the way home. This confirms my feelings about a good buy-in to blinds relation being no less than 50BB. In my experiance, this seems to be the "correct" ratio. This blind structure should have a $200 max buy-in, not a $100 max to allow a little more play.

The night held all the previous stories true about the action in this place. There was no lack of it. There weren't a lot of ATMs in place; people would throw a few racks at the game and then leave. With 2 tables going we played several orbits with a few empty seats, but they would always eventually fill. I guess 2 full tables was uncharacteristic of this place on a Wed. night.

I'll probably check it out again sometime, but the blind strucure will likely keep me away. But, it was fun to play with a few BYOCers in the card room.
 
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I showed up a little later than usual because of meeting with some contractors that night so instead of my normal 6pm it was more closer to 8pm.

As Hagar said there were two tables going which is unusual but has happend on occasion. I think as the word gets out it will be more frequent. I stayed for a couple of hours and cashed out 2 1/2 racks to run at about $75/hr.

If you didn't know we had the winner of the Sacramento Tough Man at our table, Mike, and once I found that out I immediatlely introduced myself to make friends. :) I wanted to make sure he knew that I was no threat to him in any way and that we were best of firends!

I had a good time and it was good to see, as always, some other club members representing.
 

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I agree with Hagar in that with a max buy in of $100 and a bring in of $5, your bet to stack raito is off. Saturday night is $2/4, no bring in with a max buy in of $200. Wed night USED to be $100, $1/2, no bring in.

None the less, the RF was the nizzuts, and did get me off tilt for the bit I was in. I however continued to play and continued to expose and identify critical leaks in my game.

I was pretty much DONE with poker on my way home. Planning in my head the ebay auction for my tables, chips, cards, cases and so on.

I made a bad call and stayed in a hand I shouldn't have.
 

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Ah, you finally got your feet wet on a $5 bring in game. Does that mean you will start playing in Quad's home game now?
Probably not. A 7:00 start time (on a weeknight) doesn't give me enough time to get unstuck should I need it and I just don't care for the ratio of blinds to buy-in. I'm not ready for a $200 buy-in game yet, so the $100 with a $5 limp doesn't appeal to me.

2/4 (Cache Creek) is pushing it for a $100 game so that leaves the 2/3 game in Auburn as the best ratio for a casino spread game for my stakes.

I have played in the Derby's $100 buy, 2/5 game and just now understand why I don't like it. (I think the quality of play is generally tougher at the Derby which makes it all the more difficult to consider it a profitable game.)
 
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