Hanging it Level and Center Using Studs

[Trann]

I'm in the process of mounting movie posters beneath the wall-side pot lights and I'm thinking I want them in the studs to avoid punching through the vapour barrier. This means some math and I stumbled upon a greak geeky resource I thought I'd share:

Sometimes a picture, mirror or other item is so heavy that it needs to be hung on one or more studs, but the object is not centered on studs in the desired position. For an object with evenly distributed weight, the solution is to arrange the wire and attachment points so that the angle made by the wire with a vertical is the same at both sides of the object when it is in the correct position.

http://members.surfbest.net/jdwood@surfbest.net/ASIa.gif

Plug in some numbers and get the calculated lengths to get a perfect mount.

Ref. http://members.surfbest.net/jdwood@surfbest.net/asymt.htm

[aceinthehole4212]

now THAT is awesome. Nice find Trann.

[Doctor_XXX]

Well done. An actual "Man Cave" post, with some solid applications. Great find!

<bookmarked for later> :cool:

[Quads]

What am I missing?
A laser level saves all this brain damage maths, doesn't it?

[Bullfrog]

What am I missing?
A laser level saves all this brain damage maths, doesn't it?

That is if you want the hanger heights at equal heights. If I am looking at that image correctly it allows you to say put 2 hangers up, but at different heights if you are trying to hang the picture off center of the 2 studs. Make sense?

[Doctor_XXX]

What am I missing?
A laser level saves all this brain damage maths, doesn't it?
If you have a large (wide), heavy picture that spans more than two studs ... but not equally so ... then this will help you position the attachments points at different heights INTO THE FIXED STUDS to allow the picture to be "centered" and level.

[Quads]

So does a laser level.
Find the studs, shoot the line, and attach.

No?

[Bullfrog]

So does a laser level.
Find the studs, shoot the line, and attach.

No?

But you aren't hanging it centered between the studs. The goal is to be offset between the studs and to be "centered" around some other object. So it requires the each of the hangers to be different heights NOT the same height.

[Trann]

Why do I think Quads is tapping the glass?

[Doctor_XXX]

But you aren't hanging it centered between the studs. The goal is to be offset between the studs and to be "centered" around some other object. So it requires the each of the hangers to be different heights NOT the same height.
Exactly. While centering the pic/frame between or across the studs might make sense in some cases (and make for an easy laser-line attachment) what if one end of the pic is 1 foot to the left of the left stud, and the other end is 1 inch to the right of the right stud? If you just throw up a laser-line and attach the wire (level-ly...is that a word?) on the two studs, your pic will almost certainly droop down on the left. In order for the pic (not the attachment points) to be level, you'll **PROBABLY** have to raise the left-hand attachment point slightly, for example.

[Doctor_XXX]

Why do I think Quads is tapping the glass?
Awwww, cr@p. You are probably right. :oops::oops::oops:

Still a solid find, Trann. :cool:

[Quads]

I just see an easier way to do it with a laser level.
If your hanging points are different, then shoot a line, and measure up or down from there with the laser as your reference.

[Trann]

This has less to do with hanging something level than it does with hanging it centered using studs, regardless of where those studs may be.

Perhaps an example is in order:

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y4/PokerTrann/PMC/offset-mirror.jpg

Please hang heavy $WALL_OBJECT from it's wire using the studs (grey). It needs to be centered over the $FLOOR_OBJECT, which cannot be moved for mysterious reasons.

Use one anchor and it'll slip out of position or not be over the $FLOOR_OBJECT. Ergo, two anchors are needed but it is still not centered therefore math must be performed.

QED: OP.

Kthxbye!one.

[Quads]

OK, now I see what you're saying.

Fuck that.
Tell her "it can't be hung here, find a new spot you like"

you fucking math people.......

[Trann]

The essence of mathematics is not to make simple things complicated, but to make complicated things simple. - S. Gudder

[Quads]

The essence of a tape measure and a laser level is to get a job done right, quickly and efficiently. -Quads

[Doctor_XXX]

The essence of this hand, slamming into my shaking forehead, is to express my utter disbelief at some people's "density". -ME ;)

[Quads]

:-)

[pre0024]

Math skillz h8tr

[Trann]

I got so focused on the implicit solution in Case I that I totally missed out on Case II:

If you can have two different anchor points on the object being hung, you can use just one stud (stud-to-stud distance = 0).

http://members.surfbest.net/jdwood@surfbest.net/ASIIc.gif

My inner math geek is annoyed that I can't use it.

[Quads]

I'd just use a laser level and a tape measure!

[Trann]

*tap tap tap*

[Doctor_XXX]

...son-of-a-...

:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

[Quads]

I know... funny shit.....
"here he [quads the tard] goes again....."

[Trann]

Hey, I laughed.

Goof.

[Wedge Rock]

My inner math geek is annoyed that I can't use it.

Sounds like your inner math geek is annoyed too...