running cat5

[jhrussoiii]

I am running cat5 all over my basement and wondered if I should run away from the electrical lines or if it would be ok for the to run side by side. Any thoughts?

[bobr99]

I'm no expert on the subject but I have helped a friend run some cat 5 as a side job. We tried to avoid it but a lot of the time you really can't. He has never had a complaint about any of the lines running slower or having interference so I don't really think it makes a big difference. But if you have the space I would stay at least a foot away from the electrical lines.

But again I don't run cat 5 for a living. And my buddy just got into the business so I don't think he's really sure either. But most of the IT guys say they want it away from the electrical lines.

Bob

[Quads]

Are you running shielded cat5 or unshielded?
(does it have a foil like wrap around the wires just inside the jacket?)
UTP v. STP.

Generally speaking, you should be OK either way.
110v isn't going to create a lot of noise that you'll pick up in the short distance runs you are doing.

[jhrussoiii]

The cable is the grey unshielded. I am not so worried about the cables crossing as much as running it the length of the basement in the same hole in the joists as the 110 runs. I was trying to avoid drilling all the extra holes but have no problem doing it if it might cause a problem.

Thanks for the input.

[Quads]

You should be fine.
If your passing a 4" section with 110 next to it, you're not going to pick up a lot of noise.
No need to drill more holes.

[Oz]

Men love power tools!
Men love using these power tools!
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Why are you not drilling new holes?

[Warmage]

Are you running cat 5, or 5e? 5 is iffy for gigabit connections, 5e does fine, go 6 if you want some future proofing.

[jhrussoiii]

wifey wont spend the money on 6
not sure if 5 or 5e just bought a box of 500 feet of what the guy at home depot told us to get

[bobr99]

Cat 5e will say it on the side of the box and on the cable. Also Cat 5e is a lot more expensive.

Are you going to cap them yourself? If not you might want to try it. It's really not that hard.

Bob

[mikeyinsd]

I just ran 5e in my house after finding out the cat5 cables didn't support gigabit data transfer. At first I thought I had problems with my equipment. A little more research directed me to the 5e cables. make sure you're wiring up the connectors properly. there's a great tutorial here...

http://www.ochardware.com/articles/cat5e/cat5e.html

The order of the color of wires is very important. ;)

[VvvJRvvV]

If you saw where he used a screwdriver to make up the cable. Don't fucking do that. You will end up with about half your shit working.

Buy the crimper, it's not that expensive.

JR

[PapaBear]

Actually, if you are running it in your walls, I would highly suggest terminating it to a wall plate, then connecting patch cables to finnish the run. The ones I have used before don't need a crimper. I think you can even find them at home depot these days. Some need a punch down tool, and some are tool-less. The tool-less should look something like this:
http://www.firefold.com/Toolless-Cat5E-RJ45-Keystone-Jack-Black-P1630C742.aspx

But JR is 100% right. If you are making cables, buy the crimper. It will save you much frustration. Good luck.

[Priest]

I am a certified low voltage tech.... I built and maintained Hyatts networks for a few years as a traveling tech. Let me give you my best quick answers here.

Try not to run parallel to Power closer than 1' if you can help it at all. It will work, but not nearly as well as it should. If you have to cross AC power, do so at a 90*

Do the RJ45 terminations in wall boxes, and I would reccomend (budgeting included) using the Leviton Jacks. They do include a cheapo plastic punch down tool. It is not as good as using a spring loaded punch tool, but it will get the job done. If you are also making the cables with the male connectors.... use the crimp tool... in a pinch I have done it some interesting ways, but there is no real replacement for doing it right on this.

Use the RJ45 B colour scheme. OW O GW B BW G BW B on the male connectors, and follow the colour scheme on the wall termination for RJ45B

Thats the quick and dirty.... if you have ANY questions, I can probably answer them.... it was my sole source of income for 10 years.

[zathras]

I'll second the leviton quikport stuff. I don't do it for a living but I've done my last 2 houses with them. They give you a very professional look. Come in a zillion colors, wallplates that have from 1 to 6 port holes on them. The quikports have many different connector types- I've used the rj45, rj11, rca's, f-connectors, and blanks. You just mix n match what you want on each particular drop.

For cat5/6, terminate the in-wall wires to the backside of the ports with a punchdown. And as everyone else is saying, for the patch cables use a crimper for the rj45 connectors.

http://www.levitonproducts.com/catalog/dept_id_561.htm?sid=9439F64F097765304FBA6D01D5E549 DC&pid=1208

[jhrussoiii]

I actually bought a kit with the strippers/crimpers/punchdown tool and some ends. I also bought all the leviton quickport stuff. I want it to look good and plan on doing it right. With those quick port wall plates I bought them for my cable and for the phone jacks. Seems like the right idea to also eliminat all the extra boxes in the wall and cutting out the sheet rock. I need to run the full length of my basement twice and at first I was just going to run it in the holes all of the 110 runs but have decided aginst it. Thanks for the advice.

I also bought the cat5e. I was kinda suprised the wifey let me spend all the money to do it right.

[big0mike]

The order of the color of wires is very important. ;)
Keeping the color order CONSISTENT is very important. You can do anything you want with them as long as the wires are in the proper order on both ends.

Buy the crimper, it's not that expensive.
Definitely...

Use the RJ45 B colour scheme. OW O GW B BW G BW B on the male connectors, and follow the colour scheme on the wall termination for RJ45B
You've got two Bs and BWs, which is blue and which is brown? :)

[Quads]

Make it look like this:

http://www.chaminade.org/MIS/Tutorials/Cat5Ca1.jpg

[Priest]

Yeah...sorry, was typing on my phone and not fully paying attention.... quads got it! The top one is what you use on the male connectors, the bottom is the wall jack. just follow the color code on the jack.

BTW if you do a cable with one end as A and the other as B it is known as a crossover cable, you can plug it into two computers without a hub and pass traffic directly.

[Wedge Rock]

:confused:

http://www.baristanet.com/5Cats.jpeg

:confused:

I retro-fitted Cat5E in my basement and without consideration ran it through the same joist holes as the 110 line. No noticeable problems after several years.

I am not an expert in anything.

[Quads]

That picture fucking slays me.
It took me 3 seconds to catch it after remembering the OP topic.
And then like a dumb ass, I'm counting one, 2, III, four, SONOFABITCH!!!

[Wedge Rock]

That picture fucking slays me.
It took me 3 seconds to catch it after remembering the OP topic.
And then like a dumb ass, I'm counting one, 2, III, four, SONOFABITCH!!!

I was looking for five cats running... when I couldn't find it, the rubber chicken in the background closed the deal.

[mikeyinsd]

You could also do this....

http://sewelldirect.com/Gefen-Ethernet-over-Powerline-PLC_specs.asp?source=froogle&utm_source=Froogle&utm_medium=cse

http://sewelldirect.com/productImages/SW-9058_lg.jpg

Ethernet over powerline. They're saying speeds of 200Mbps. If I'm not mistaken the internet connection speed from the modem is only 100Mbps at most. I'm thinking of doing this also.

[Doctor_XXX]

^^^
If you ran Cat-5e through your house already, why are you looking into this, too? Just curious.

(5e should get you speeds up to 1,000, if you run Gigabit hardware, and your wires are solid...)

[Rewind]

Just for reference, if you ever need to make a cross over cable, use the following guide:
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y56/MrInquisition/zz/utp.jpg

[Quads]

Boy I loves me some crossover cable.....

[Rewind]

I swear I've had that image for 10 years and have been waiting for the day I could post it. Normally I can't just work it into a conversation.